Yeah Bidwell and GMill !!!

I think ya'll put all the local teams where they should be.

I love this Gridiron Glory site. I visit it multiple times daily. Keep up the good work!!!!

Thank guys.  I hope that I speak for many of the Calloway faithful.  We appreciate the recognition.  Our boys keep working hard and I believe we're all looking forward to seeing how Mr. Bidwell looks in Laker red this week on the air.

Thank you for finally tipping your hat to the Rodney Dangerfield team of West KY - Calloway County.  Actually think you've got the Lakers pretty much where they should be right now.  They played one of their worst games of the season Friday night (5 fumbles lost) and still managed a win vs. a good Hopkins Central team.  No guarantees, but the Lakers should be 6-3 after Fulton Co.  Then another good matchup vs. Graves to close out the regular season and tuneup for the playoffs and the Storm again.  Should I adjust the color on the set for your red blazer this week?

Could you also post the link to the actual poll like you did last week? And hey...thanks for the love for the Lakers.

The actual AP Poll hasn't come out yet.  It should be out soon.  As soon as it is, we'll post it.

I'm not surprised that  the rest of the state's voters still are waiting and seeing on Calloway. Surely another win will get them in the top 10.

Surprised at the first-place votes received by Lone Oak and Fulton City by some other media.

On an unrelated note, I notice Fulton City's win over Mayfield is leading the performance of the week voting. What does that say about the respect for Mayfield's program that just beating Mayfield is considered such a big accomplishment (and I'm not saying it's not) two weeks in a row.

i think fulton city should be number one go bulldogs go

thanks for the love guys!  

Thanks guys for throwing us a vote, keep up the good work.
GO LAKERS!!

well i said mayfield would send fulton city home crying a  couple of weeks ago as much as i hate to say it i respect fulton city football team now thay just may be for real but lets see what lone oak has in store for them if fulton city beats them but just remember a few players for mayfield was out mayfield was not at few strength friday night      
                               erik           hickman ky

mayfeild should have did what i said

I just went to maxpreps.com and Corey Robinson was'nt on there but if he was he would be leading the nation with 52 touchdown passes. Go Flash!!!

just because they had a few players out that doesn't mean they were the whole team even if they would had of player they still would of had got beat now!!!!!!!!!!

Lone Oak Fan,

Talk to the coach or athletic director to add the players to the site.

Seriously, does anyone believe in using punctuation? Maybe making it easier for us to read your posts?

weekly rankings, just a few 'chirps' bid / gmill - n. bullitt #10 last week loses to last week's #4 friday night which is now ranked #3 being mighty marion cty & n. bullitt gone from the t.t. - okay, warren east #3 last week dropped to #5 this week following an off night this past friday - didn't win didn't loose, but lost two positions - knox central #8 prior, play & win friday evening but drop two spots also to #10 this week - then calloway following a nice home but close win over hcc enters the t.t. for the first time @ #8 as lone oak advances a spot with a win over 0 -8 n. mule from #5 after being there for a couple of wks weeks to #4 with no team in front of them losing - now i'm aware of every-one's over-all & district records, but i'm still curious of your voting recipe just a little bit that's all guys - not sure how 'one' is to properly calculate 'in' correct percentages & quantities for love & numbers, while blending in both fact & fiction, plus then tossing in all other considered & required ingredients to produce such a fancy dish - i know very tough and asking a lot, but hey please share your 'two heads better than one' secrets won't ya...            

Lone oak Lone oak if i was you i would take lesson on what we did to Mayfeild but all those passing yards are going to stop when the big blue comes to town cause were raedy!!!!

Right on Mike. I tried to give kentblue a lesson in punctuation last week, but apparently my efforts have failed. So kentblue, a pretty exciting week for the Lakers, huh. You finally managed to crack into Bidwell's top ten with the win over Hopkins central. So I'm curious this week to find out if you still think Lone Oak is over-rated.  They continued thier dominating performances (and yes I'll admit, against a vastly inferior Muhlenberg North squad) while the Lakers barely managed to squeeze by Hopkins Central 34-30. Need I remind you that Lone Oak pounded Hop Central 45-14 on Central's home field just a couple of weeks ago.

Fcity should be ranked higher than #4.  Plus I wonder who gave us the #1 vote if it wasn't our local news station.

kentblue...

honestly, i think jeff plugged in the wrong ballott for our 4A votes....

i'm almost postive we dropped knox central out of the rankings and kept north bullitt at #10.  The previous week we had knox and calloway in almost a dead heat, but seeing how calloway's win this week was little more impressive than knox (they struggled to beat a 1-7 team) we voted them in.  and we voted them ahead of north bullitt only because n.b. lost two of three (albeit to good teams, but losses are losses)

as far as warren east, we moved marion county ahead of them this week because they won an impressive game over north bullitt.  

i think jeff and i were in a coin-flip whether to vote lone oak #4 or #5.......i think we looked at last week's state rankings and saw they were #4 so we kept them there.

But i can certainly tell you this!  they will be tested against fulton city and i will be VERY interested to see if that offense can operate at such a high-level against all the athletes fulton city has.  really looking forward to that game.

hope that clears up some of the questions!

crystal gmill, i understand & appreciate your explanation.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                    for you lo alum 01, right you are about calloway according to what 'i've' heard and read on here, in several newpapers, plus viewing various net sites & forums etc...comments as posted from fans, current or former players along with several fellow bloggers seem quite excited of the win & new ranking.              
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               not real sure 'where' you got confused though alum - i'm not exactly a laker fan how-ever i do appreciate their play and effort as 'i' do for most all high schools in general - so disappointedly 'i' have to tell you 'i' didn't manage to 'crack' in to any-body's top-ten ranking this week as you stated.

okay 'you' still with me, okay next item then alum - i'm 'one' of your very own man - a lone oak fan & supporter - i just bet much longer and in many more ways than 'you' are alum - now personally alum 01, i don't think lone oak or calloway either one actually belong in the state's top ten other than for 'stat-sakes' as far as the mighty oakers go - but hey 'if' i were to have bidwell's / gmill's voting power, out of pure 'love & local support" for both, i would cast lone oak @ #9 & calloway respectively @ #10.

yes alum i do recall the lo / hcc score - i also recall the lo / calloway score - do you alum - which by the way to 'me' is the one & only creditable win lone oak has on this years resume - now that's so far mind you alum - hopefully additional notches will be carved soon.  

as far as with both teams being victorious over hcc & the margin differential, who really cares - doesn't mean any more to 'me' than lone oaks winning margin of 50 or better considering their chosen prey. (well evening there stevie yerkes) now you can ask 'stevie' about their cherry picked schedule of this year alum - he agrees with me totally.

cal by the way (catch that alum) used that hcc game as 'bait' - so don't fall for it alum - be aware 01 and tip-off the flash man.

so 'yes' lone oak is definitely over-rated - have been since very early on this year - but such is understandable due to all their piled numbers with excellent individual performances and just great all around team effort and play - just ashame this purple flash squad couldn't have been battle tested and 'shined' as brightly after enduring a tougher schedule and opponents before heading in to this first play-offs venture - an abrupt ending is in sight i'm sorry to forecast alum - but i will be rooting for them alum as far as they can manage to take us. (being you, stevie, & i)                    

UMMM where our game video??? even though we lost :(

I'll be honest kentblue, I'm really not sure what to think about you.  I appologize for labeling you as a Lakers fan, but due to the fact that last week's post was mostly concerning LO and Calloway, I assumed your adamant arguements stemmed from a support for the Lakers.  Once again my appologies.

So who are you really for kentblue? Typically when people respond to a blog/post (especially concerning sports) they are doing so (usually) to defend a specific opinion about a specific team/belief. So what are you trying to prove? Are you not for anyone? Your goal here seems to simply prove everyone wrong, and arugue with everyone, including the trained professionals who run these blogs.

The role of a sports analyst/writer is to deliver an unbiased opinion and knowledge to help inform the public of certain stories/controversies about the subject, and to spark debate over these results. Bidwell and Miller have this role locked down. They have college educations and training that have prepared them for their professions.

I'm sure they appreciate your opinion (although I'm sure they cringe, as we all do, when reading your sparatic, and unreadable posts that leave EVEYTHING to the imagination; especially when trying to distinguish when you are beginning a new thought). Although I'm also sure that they wish you would try to argue a specific point, rather than argueing against everything. Bidwell and Miller are certified sports anaylyst. This is why they have a vote in the KHSAA AP football poll.

So  you say you're a Lone Oak fan?  A fan for longer than I have ever been, huh?  Please dont continue posting that as I feel it diminishes the quality of my degree from Lone Oak. Then what is your beef with the Flash? Why not support them? Any LO fan will say that this is the best team the school has EVER had. Even though LO has a subpar schedule (and I'll admit that), you can't  deny the tallent surrounding the program. Once again I'll emphasize that it doesn't matter what caliber of teams you play, it takes great tallent to produce the numbers LO has.

On another note: In response to a post by Bidwell back on week 2 entitiled "I should be happy for them, but...", Bidwell talks about how LO ran up the score on Caldwell County. I know it seems that whenever a high school team beats another team 56-3 (when up 35-3 at the half) , and keeps their starting QB in the game during the 4th quarter, that it would appear the winning team was running up the score. I disagree

I do not, in any way agree, with a team running up the score on another inferior team (although Caldwell is now ranked in the top 10 in 2A) for the simple fact of embarrasing said team. However, I believe that the onslaught of the flash offense has come with good reason.

That reason: Who is Lone Oak? What big recruit have they ever produced? Why would any college 1A team ever pay attention to a top recruit from this school?  

Why?, because of Corey Robinson.  Robinson is a division 1A prospect that is playing for a school that has never produced such an athlete. As "Lone Oak fan" stated earlier in this blog: According to 'max preps' (although LO's stats arent posted there) Corey Robinson has more touchdown passes than anyone in the country. Thats right, anyone IN THE COUNTRY!  Lone Oak has a diamond in the rough, and no one knows about it.

The only way for Corey Robinson to get the attention that he deserves from major college recruiters is to put up UNBELIEVABLE numbers (which he is doing).  Haskins would be selfish if he jepordized the future of what should be a top state recruit because he feels sorry for other local schools. Robinson needs top numbers to be considered among other top-state recruits if he is going to be recognized while playing for Lone Oak. It's as simple as that. Haskins is simply providing the best outlet for this star to go as far as he can. I agree that it is sad that other schools have to get in the way as Robinson trudges towards several Kentucky high school football state records that will prove him worthy of top scholarships.

I'm not sure Robinson actually leads the country in TD passes. He may, it's just that A LOT of schools don't report to Maxpreps.

I agree steve. No one can actually take a site like 'max preps' seriously because it is up to the school to supply the actual numbers. However, its hard to look at a site like 'max preps' (who have so many teams accross the country submitting numbers) and not believe that Robinson is among the top in the land (strictly number wise). I'm not saying that Robinson is the best in the nation, by any means, but if you look at his numbers they are mind blowing.

He is 10 TD passes away from setting the Kentucky state all-time record of 62 in a season. He still has 2 regular season games and the play-offs to solidify this record.  This will surpass the likes of Brian Brohm, Tim Couch, etc..

No one, not anyone, can argue that there hasn't been a QB other than Corey Robinson in Kentucky state history that has had numbers like his without playing "weak" opponents. It doesn't happen all the time, but you have to admit that it does happen. Not every school has the privalege of playing top-ranked Louisville, and Lexington schools on their schedules every year that will "solidify" their numbers.

You cant tell me that there has not been some "backwood country high school QB" (not trying to be demeaning to 'said 'schools) that has produced an outstanding player that rises far above his competition. You cant say that some "John Doe" QB hasn't come close to breaking records ,even having played for a non-recognizable program that has never been on the map.

Corey Robinson has done just that.

Alum - your posts continue to entertain on here.  Especially your last one about why Lone Oak has to pad stats for Robinson.  You must not know anything about the college recruiting process.  College football coaches work hard to know who can play and at what level by working their information circles, not the internet.  The biggest scholarship factor working in favor of any player is his head coach, and not by blowing up stats.  Haskins has been around long enough and knows enough people in the college ranks to get his star looked at by big time schools, if the talent warrants.  Colleges evaluate kids in various ways.  Big number vs. bad teams don't necessarily help promote a kid to college scouts.  Certainly not the big conference schools.  Period.  They know what they are looking for and what kids are out there to provide that talent.  Your post suggests that college recruiters are blind unless a player's numbers are off the charts.

gosh lo alum 01, now you've gone and hurt my feelings really bad.

i sincerely apologize to 'you' on a personal basis alum for lacking the ability to 'spark' discussions / conversations involving high school football as the subject.

i certainly 'admire' your condemnation of our nation's college scouts / recruiters - pointing out clearly & proving with-out doubt they 'all' are blind plus unworthy of their job tasks & the essential qualities necessary in locating & finding possible prospects - especially qb's alum.

now alum i just want 'you' realize & admit (okay alum so stubborn you are,  'consider' only then) this one simple fact for 'me' please - numbers / stats do not, i repeat 'do not' paint the 'whole' picture of any-one's ability to play @ the next level - just ask your buddy tim couch 'if' you wish dispute that fact.

next issue lo alum 01, i've never 'once' on this blog ignored lone oak's team or individual stats, numbers, and accomplishments achieved thus far during the '07 season - history certainly written & entered in the books - i've complimented such over & over which causes me to 'wonder' how you miss such alum.

enough's enough alum but 'i' do have a couple of questions for you okay - first one, just curious 'if' you know / knew of or recall 'billy jack haskins' when he handled the qb role @ paducah tilghman and then also assumed the same 'partially' when he attended uk  - interesting his college career / story and very talented he was - (such being my personal opinion) - but short changed unfortunately the kid sure was @ uk i might add - (another personal opinion) - however 'i' think many would agree with that comment - check in to that story 'alum' - i think interesting you'd find such also.


okay then second alum, are 'you' aware of any former lone oak player / players that went on to play f'ball on a pro-basis - and 'if' so can you name them alum ?

you know alum i'm a bit confused with friday nights upcoming match-up believe it or not - not sure just 'what' to think or expect out of those dogs - their mayfield win was great for their program, but the cards had a few other obstacles / issues to deal with on & off the field besides the dogs - cards unraveling will continue come friday night versing marshall - what say you of the match-up ?


can't make it to the lo / fult game either but i'll tell you this alum, i'll sure be @ the upcoming heath massacre  - they certainly have a whipping coming and deserve a good one - alum 'you' might have even been on the receiving end of some of those pirate thrashings - were ya man - hey and just think about this alum - 'i' was likely sitting up there in the stands 'cheering' for you & the purple flash - every 'point' heath 'piled on' was a 'nail' right through my heart.

so see i am @ least consistent with my 'running up the score' belief alum - just isn't right 01 to beat up on the meek.

see ya @ the 'heath' game man, save me a seat - oh and alum, stop kissing up to bid & gmill - you 'aren't' getting a purple koozie...                                          

Well stated LO Alum 01!  How can anybody that says they're a Lone Oak fan not be excited about how good they are this year kentblue?

Kentblue...This is meant for humorous purposes, but your last statement about him not getting a koozie is a little inaccurate. Whenever Jeff and Greg can't make the LO game, I hand out the koozies on occasion to save them trouble (last week, actually). And since I know the identity of LO Alum 01, I think he deserves a koozie for his hard work on the blog. And if I knew who you were, I might just hand you one too. You put as much effort into this as he does. And you're a big blue fan!  

I'm surprised nobody's throwing out Fulton City-Lone Oak predictions yet. I'll throw one out. Fulton City makes it a game in the first half, but the aerial assault from Lone Oak will be overpowering in the second half. 59-31 Lone Oak. Any disagreements? Arguments? Curse words?

Bidwell....how bad does Ohio St. give it to your Fightin' Joe Pa's this weekend?  

P.S. Completely joking on the curse words. Family board here!

just finished reading your posting 'pigskinparty' and enjoyed it i certainly did - excellent points but hey, just tossing one your way now - lo alum 01 only reads & comprehends very carefully selected comments then ignores the rest - dreams a while, has a tall glass of warm kool-aid (grape my guess due to the color)  then begins spouting.

while 'i' agree with your posting almost 100%, did you not read & take notice 'alum' has a degree from lone oak - meaning i suppose 'we' just might as well hang it up man - previously had the nerve to scold me for punctuation & paragraphs on a blog-site which is fine - in turn how-ever, the following should be fine also - i want all of you to take a second glance @ his impressive lone oak (no offense lo, his words not mine) 'degreed' spelling of words such as tallent, jepordized, anaylyst, sparatic, arugue, arguements, appologies, & appologize just to mention a few - lo alum 01 can clean his own house before attempting to sweep mine - i do appreciate  the sharing of all of his sporting wisdom & knowledge...          

for you 'lone oak fan' - i only ask this - is it not okay for 'one' to be some-what excited but due to understanding & realizing all aspects of their accomplishments  this year not go completed nuts and falling over-board with you & your crew-mates while enjoying your 'first' cruise ?    

hey eric c, how's it going - i agree with ya the guy deserves a koozie - don't think 'i' ever said he didn't - what i did say was 'he' wasn't getting a 'purple' one - now 'if' you happen to have that shade, by all means save it and give it to 'him' please  - i've heard of people bleeding 'blue' but my money tells me 'his' is a dark shade of purple man...

while mentioning the color blue above eric, such reminded of our loss this past saturday - but @ least the game was competitive and the better team won that day any-how - it's just the uk / fl string of history that's disturbing to me - plus such now the same continues @ s. car. also - the bama thumping of tn nicely off-set any possible personal depression thankfully saturday...

i've got to do some more studies first on the flash / dog match up before posting my thought of the out-come - gmill made a few comments previously that spun a few of my wheels - stopped they haven't just yet either - later all...                                

Just to toss my two cents in...

1.  To agree with a previous post, college scouts don't care about wins/losses or numbers (see Hunter Cantwell.)  College recruiting is a meat market and it's all about size, speed, potential, etc.  Robinson could throw 1,000 touchdown passes and that doesn't mean USC is going to knocking on his door.  I'm sure Coach Haskins has got his feelers out there and Robinson is getting looks from schools that are seriously interested in him.

2.  Chumbler.....I'll take the Nittanys at home against the Buckeyes.  I think Ohio State and Boston College both go down this week.  OSU hasn't played anyone quite honestly accept for a mediocre Purdue and Michigan State team.  Joe-Pa and company did it two years ago and I think they'll do it again Saturday.  It's just unfortunate, the team that will benefit most is that ego-maniac Les Miles and LSU.  Is there a worse coach in America when it comes to play-calling late in a game? (i.e. four straight runs in OT vs. UK....throwing to the endzone instead of kicking game-winning FG vs. Auburn)  I've hated Miles since he was at Okie State.  I thought he was overrated then and is now.  NO WAY LSU WINS A TITLE WITH HIM COACHING!

As far as predictions for the high school games.  I'll post those on my blog Thursday.  We've got some nice games on Friday night.  Looking forward to it.....just hope it's not too wet.

THROW US A BONE RUKAVINA!!!!

Predictions for Friday night:  I think with the sloppy field at LO, it will be a toss up.  Whoever can actually maintain footing and score will win.  This is one of those games that you hope that nobody blows a knee due to field conditions. Any chance that the game will be postponed?

Good point, Mike. The field will be treacherous (Spelling?). As for it being cancelled, I've announced games at Lone Oak for six years now. I have yet to see a game cancelled. That includes the monsoon we went through on Senior Night last season vs. Trigg County (Same night as Game 5 of the Cardinals World Series run). So to answer your question, HIGHLY unlikely that it will be cancelled. ONLY chance is if there is frequent lightning, and I believe it's just calling for heavy showers Friday night. We'll need to ask the Weather Authority for that one. Either way, it could really even things out. I might have to reconsider my prediction slightly!  

Miller, you're probably right on the Nittany's. But what happened to the Steelers??  

Thanks to Miller and Kblue for agreeing about the recruiting process-stats post.  The point was about recruiting, but also to debunk Alum's notion that Haskins has to have Robinson pump up his numbers to get noticed.  Not so.  Robinson's a good player and will play college football on scholarship at some level.  Simply no reason to set records for recruiting purposes at the humiliation of struggling teams.  If he gets records great.  Like Miller said in his initial post this week, don't get flagged for piling on the weak teams this year.  That's all.

I totally love the smack talk our players are speaking.

One day, it'll come back and bite you.

Hey Eric,
What excuse are you going to come up with for Mayfield when they were getting beat by Calloway when their quarterback and center was STILL in the game. Mayfield can give it up.
Fulton is a tad-bit smaller school than Lone Oak. 1A vs 4A.  We will have to wait and see about this Firday night but I can guarantee we will give it our best shot just like we did to Mayfield and you see what happened then. Go Dawgs!!!

Field conditions play a major role in this weeks matchup with Fulton.  Flash field was the worst in the area when wet, back in the day.  Lone Oak 40-27.  Which will be a better game?  Lone Oak vs. Fulton City or Patriots vs. Colts next week?

i think that fulton city will take the win over lone oak or should i say lone-ly oak, because the bulldogs have surprised me

Taking Fulton 56-48.

Pigskin--you're certainly right about how talent is evaluated by collegiate coaches.  I believe what LO Alum 01 was saying is that in order for a big time program to even know a kid like Robinson exists is through numbers like that.  From the point that he's noticed then they'll evaluate him on a lot of criteria that don't have anything to do with his numbers.

Highlight videos are also a big part of the recruiting process--every single player looking to play at the next level(college) has one.  Coaches/recruiters don't have the ability to go see games from every single player, so they will look at these tapes(If you don't believe me, Derrick Locke, UK's freshman running back came to UK on a track scholly and took his tape to Brooks once he got there).  High school coaches and players send these tapes out all the time.  In an effort to produce the highest number of "highlight" plays that necessitates Robinson throwing the ball a lot--and a lot of lesser talented schools end up paying the price.

Also, LO Alum 01 knows quite a bit about the college recruiting process--he played ball in college.  

Any thoughts on Mayfield vs Marshall County anyone? Could be a sleeper full of excitement!!!

since i go to lone oak i gotta supported them. they should win as long as its not to windy. lone oak 42-28

FULTON CITY WILL BE THE CLASS A STATE CHAMPS....NOT EVEN BEECHWOOD OR HAZARD ARE GONNA STAND IN OUR WAY!!! GO BULLDOGS....LONE OAK GET READY!

jeff bidwell looked so good in that red sweater